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Anonymous Board owner 04/16/2018 (Mon) 21:15:06 No. 2333
General Mewch improvement thread
Post suggestions/feedback ITT
if mega milk is not a shill or running this website as a honeypot then that means he is an OG
reel towlk
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>>2337
look most dainty and fair-skinned cop on the force, eh?
idea
auto-ban any ip that bumps a single thread x times in a row, like 3-5 or so

mods can always revoke the ban later
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>>2335
I have no bad intentions. Mewch is not for profit.
>>2339
Maybe a more advanced flood timer? or at least a warning message and then a ban would be cool I think.
>>2333
Allow CP
>>2342
I dump like 100 pics at a time sometimes though.
Gib lynxchan api endpoint to request data on a single post.
>>2348
That feature was removed on 2.0 due to improve caching.
>>2348
Are you planning to create a bot or something for mewch? Kinda interested in this.
>>2349
I see. So it performs better even downloading all the thread data because of cache? Nice.
>>2350
Nah, just finishing that custom hover-quotes thing from /wai/. Was taking the code from the tooltips.js to use and found it curious that it was downloading and sorting through all the posts.

I toyed with writing my own node based imageboard server in the past, and I had an endpoint for getting data for a single post because it was a rare event, the hovers are most of the time already in the client's memory (or even the page itself), and in my IB the user received the last 300+ posts (from cache, in json) when logging in anyway, so it was very rare to use that endpoint, most operations were on the client side.
Another curiosity. Is it better to create all of those quoteTooltips and floatingMenus before they are called or instead of having just one that gets moved around and changed?
Privacy Enhancement
Mewch Analytics now only read the first 3 numbers of your ip. Ex. 192 of 192.168.1.1
>>2353
I guess.
>>2362
I mean, I guess not.
okay...remember this is what war looks like

...i am logging off for now
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"war is hell"
Any thoughts on pros and cons of a cross-posting function? (being able to create a thread on 2 boards)
>>2361
that's great, thanks!
so... i just digested the shit i'd made for you guys while i was on a shit ton of xanax, and... <3
What are this website's rules?
>>2370
Check the homepage, it's literally right there
>>2371
But none of them say anything about "rudeposting" I've seen before. ??
>>2372
oh it is simply a joke on Boys Club. If you were banned for it, it was probably a joke ban.
>>2373
Oh! So the people here are by default so nice?
>>2374
For the most part. Tis a comfy chan.
Fix the ‘expand thread’ function
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mega, the enforced anon thing was nice while it lasted

since we apparently can't have nice things, maybe we can have a compromise, perhaps some way to disable showing poster names entirely from the client side?

>2366
a million years late, but I think it could be a good idea for dead (read: non-/b/) boards if it's implemented so that the thread is actually hosted only on a single board and the cross-board post is a redirect. The only trouble would be getting rid of it when it's no longer needed.
>>2390
Here is a fix for now. You can paste this in your settings CSS box.

.noEmailName {
font-size: 0px;
}
.noEmailName::before {
content: "Anonymous";
font-size: 12px;
}


>>2366
Hmm, by why even have two boards?
>>2391
This is mega btw, forgot to add my name
>>2391
Also anon, if you want to hide flags

.imgFlag {
display: none;
}
>>2391
Because eventually the board would grown enough to not need to cross-post to have movement, and just having a big mixed subject board comes with its own can of worms.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u6TTorNjL4

a person is born a certain way.... perhaps this also means that a black person would eventually get "too old" to be black or "too old" to be whatever race they are
Mark the subject and password fields as 'autocomplete="new-password"' to get around fucking chrome's stupid autocompleter doing it wrong as usual.
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x265 mp4 test
>>2710
Hmm well thats odd
So it says this is the place of
>milk and honey
So milk owns the place, but who is "honey"?
>>2715
that's you, hun
>>2711
doesnt werk on endchan either
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Hey, can you add this "tinfoiler" flag on /fringe/ ? Thanks.
I think this board could benefit greatly from removing the name and subject function entirely, at least for a while to curb the rampant identityfagging that's been going on. it really seems like it's killing the comfyness because some people are getting to big an ego. idk, it's food for thought and I was really hoping when you did remove it that one day, that you kept it like that for a bit. I know I'm not the only one who shares this sentiment. Not all namefags are bad but the ones that are are BAD and I feel like this is something you should consider.
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>>2728
Often times Namefagging brings community and establishes that comfy feel. But I get what you're saying, not all are good, not all are bad.

Problems:
Filtering a user by name cuts a chunk of content on mewch
No way to really remove a nameposter (Flags, Subjects, signatures, image signatures)
Lack of Anonymity

Benefits:
Anonymity
"Hey maybe theirs more people on this board then the names I see all the time"

I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. But I am more leaning towards the place were nameposters are allowed since I have become friends with most of you guys.

>>2719
Your best bet is to ask this in the pinned thread on >>>/fringe/
>>2729
I don't know how realistic this is but it's something I've thought of in the past. Is there any way to limit the amount of posts someone makes with a name in a given hour or time frame? It gets a bit tiring seeing threads made by the same people all the time. Trips/Names used to be used for single threads so you could keep track of the poster, IDfagging is just a way for people to feel important in a sea of anons. I don't know if this will achieve anything but I just wanted to put it out there.
>>2730
Here's a problem: (Unless we track users with cookies which I'm not so cool with)
postin
postin differently
As someone who has been moderating a chan with tripcodes (and using them, and not using them elsewhere) for nearly a decade, here is my 2 cents:
Not having tripcodes is not going to solve any issue of attwhoring/unhinged posters, drama, e-celebs, etc... they find a way to do their thing. That is not a good reason to not have them at all.
But, that being said, it still matters choosing to have them or not, because they create very different types of communities.
Sure, the users can choose not to use them, as they did on 4chan, but once a group that do uses them settles, it is a tripcode chan and it will forever be one. Anons exist, but they are secondary, and if you don't know all the tripfriends, you are not part of the community. The way you interact with them "wrong", proves you are an outsider.

And an extra-factor is that small chans tend to attract tripcode users because they are unwelcome on the bigger ones, so it is much less of a choice of the userbase of what mewch should be, and more of a choice of going back to the big anon ones or not. Small anon ones need to be enforced to exist.

So, TLDR, no way around it but to think what kind of community milk wants, and stick to it.
>>2729
>Often times Namefagging brings community and establishes that comfy feel.
I prefer being recognisable by the content I post, not by the signature next to it.
>>2736
You can't speak for everybody, I am like you though anon. Everyones different.

>>2735
>but once a group that do uses them settles, it is a tripcode chan and it will forever be one
I think this is my answer really.
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Anyone in favor of names and trips should take a look at Something Awful, as the nature of the community provides insight into the benefits and drawbacks of nymous rather than anon posting. After all, it's the reason moot made halfchan in the first place.

I think the single best argument to have enforced anon is the simple reason that it's much harder to find anon comms than others. Unless you want spend several thousand hours learning jp/ru you have basically two active imageboards, one paywalled reddit and the other "ACTUALLY that's ephebofilia P.S. hitler did nothing wrong". In contrast, if you want an identity attached to your posts you have pretty much the entire internet to choose from. Seriously there's what, thousands? Tens of thousands? Millions of active communities that'll let you post with a name and avatar!

>>2735
what this anon said about trip culture is completely correct, and you can actually see a great example of this in action by going to 4/vg/. Because each thread is its own insular circlejerk it comes to revolve around the handful of personalities that dominate it rather than the subject matter itself. And don't forget that /vg/'s actually not as bad as it could be since it's only a board culture, rather than sitewide.

anecdotally, it's been nearly a half-decade since I was active on halfchan and while I can only think of two good tripfriends I could easily name off a dozen or more that were universally reviled (except by other tripfriends looking for solidarity, ofc). Even now I still have images that anons made to discredit these people.

btw, what is it with tripfriends and false-flagging?
I was thinking about how the fields should be reshuffled to 1) block the way namefagging/tripfagging works 2) make it more intuitive for complete newfigs (who often want to fill out the e-mail field because they think they need to fill all fields that exist).

So. First of all, get rid of the namefield altogether. Also get rid of the name next to the post; there's no need for it to say "Anonymous" everywhere if there's no namefield.
Additionally, keep the tripcode system, but name that "Signature" instead. Clearly mark it an optional field. Any posts that are signed will display the tripcode. Additionally, to promote use of tripcodes as a way of identifying posters within a thread, they could be hashed also with the thread OP number (could be optional). In a similar manner, posts would also be signed by the board staff.
Split saging out of the e-mail field. Make it a checkbox. E-mail field could either be gotten rid of altogether (if one wants to leave the address, one can always leave it in the post) or again marked as optional like the signature field. Optional fields would be hidden in quick reply mode, accessible by clicking "additional options".
Subject field can remain the same, and doesn't have to go under additional options.

However, another option is to completely opt out of the current reply and quick reply form, and replace it with something like >>2762 – and making a separate new thread form (which could also be separate from the board pages – actually the board page mode itself feels kind of clumsy and might should be replaced with something else?). In that case, there would be a "reply" button at the bottom of the thread, which would open up a post form in shape of a post box with fields like the current post form. Optional fields would be hidden by default but accessible via "additional options". Replies would still work the same way, clicking the post number would add reference to the post in the reply form.
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>>2779
I would endorse this date format change
You can't force an imageboard into being something. It will be what it will be. Trying to force mewch into being something it isn't by disabling features and adding unnecessary obscurity does nothing more than piss off legitimate posters and appease a very vocal crowd of people who can't just not pay the names any attention. It's a community. Let it have identified users be a part of it. All you're doing is giving posters the finger and the people who complain will find yet another thing to bitch about.

Why does this have to be an issue?
Who do people care?
It's not like these people who post on mewch are doing anything wrong. They are literally posting and contributing to mewch. Same as anonymous posters. Who cares?

Why we have to have this stupid meta discussions and threads over completely inane topics baffles me. It does not matter if people use a name or not. Who gives a shit, really.

The whole thing is just anti-comfy in general, throw it in the garbage. Just discuss things on the internet basket weaving discussion forum. These things do not matter in the least.
>>2785
I have suggestions because I would like mewch to look distinctive. Not because I hold a grudge against attention whores.
>>2785
>It's not like these people who post on mewch are doing anything wrong.
>doing anything wrong.
>sudden spike in shitposting
>d3lta being an annoyance
>piling on shit on top of shit just to reach a peak sooner
hmmm
>You can't force an imageboard into being something.
oh wait you fucking can. it's the entire point of
the term "newfag" is to reject people that haven't attempted to merge with the community.
>Trying to force mewch into being something it isn't by disabling features and adding unnecessary obscurity does nothing more than piss off legitimate posters and appease a very vocal crowd of people who can't just not pay the names any attention.
I'm not entirely sure on this subject. old4/b/ had it's fair share of namefags and tripfags, but mew/b/ is getting it's anus ravenged by a fuck ton of people that don't seemingly give 2 shits about quality. we would be much better off of we never had to deal with this in the first place, but desperate times call for desperate measures. Maybe having a temporary board for specific features and advertising it on /b/ in a pinned post would be the best solution? idk.
>Let it have identified users be a part of it.
tbh i only have a problem with one particular namefag who seems to go full aspie when shit like this happens. i'm pretty sure this entire situation was caused by a combination of them or some stupid /wai/ shit I won't pay attention to because it's /wai/ mega is just trying to find a way to stop all this .
>>2787
>the term "newfag" is to reject people that haven't attempted to merge with the community.
That's the community doing it, though. Not the staff.

Though I absolutely agree with you that certain people are causing problems. The solution imo is just getting rid of people who shitpost regardless if they use a name or not. Shitposters always get the boot. Delete shitposting, ban shitposters lightly, if they continue, go for longer ban lengths.
>>2788
>Shitposters always get the boot. Delete shitposting, ban shitposters lightly, if they continue, go for longer ban lengths.
Proxies and Tor posters. There's no real way to ban someone unless I ban proxies. (Which I don't plan on doing)
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>>2789
Not really much of a point in moderating the site at all then. It's all a pointless struggle when a dedicated team of autists can sit down and fuck with everything. These "problematic people" will just keep returning and returning because there isn't a way to get rid of them.
>>2790
>Not really much of a point in moderating the site at all then. It's all a pointless struggle when a dedicated team of autists can sit down and fuck with everything. These "problematic people" will just keep returning and returning because there isn't a way to get rid of them.
You're right but theres few that are very dedicated and many lose interest. It's interesting how 8chan survives because they have the same setup as us. Many users I just have to ban once and they don't return.
>>2788
It's up to the staff to pose as community and moderate in this way.
>>2790
>It's interesting how 8chan survives because they have the same setup as us.
To be fair, they have the option to disable Tor posting and recently they've been making a small effort to block proxies. Or at the very least people have been complaining about proxyposting not working. Also, several VPNs there are globally banned.
>>2793
Stephen is working on an addition to block hostnames. So we should be able to combat attacks a little better now. I can block the major ones I feel are being abused.
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>>2785

Ignoring for a moment all the ways choosing to have an identity accompany a post leads to the identity itself becoming inextricable from the post, I have a question:
You profess no one should care whether an identity is attached to a post or not, but if you truly think that why take one at all? It's more work than not, and after all, as you say who cares?

>watch your flagposters, they become avatarfags
>watch your avatarfags, they become namefags
>watch your namefags, they become tripfags
>watch your tripfags, they become attention whores
>watch your attention whores, they become cancer
im japanese but my flag shows up as a burger i dont want to look like a disgusting burger
>>2793
they dont block proxies but theyre buggy, basically you need to restart your browser everytime you change ip

havent found any globally banned vpns, you must be using some shitty free one
>>2803
Oddly enough when I'm on campus my flag shows up japanese. I'm a burger. Something is not right.
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The reply pop up box is nice but too long. The Post button is off screen. Also, the game.
>>2807
Will be fixed in the new changes, stay tuned
>>2805
happens on 8chan too, tried halfchan and it works fine
Is there an api endpoint in which I get the latest post of every board?
using <board>/1.json could work, but pinned threads throw it off and I would have to iterate all the posts, and I would have to get one json from each board.
The /index.json only gives me the latest posts so I wouldn't know about boards that didn't got a post in that period.

I'm writing a new post notifier thingy for the navBoardsSpan.
>>2813
I guess I'll use the boards.js, hopefully its cached :P
I was banned for a day for rudeposting. >-<
>>2854
Mods are a joke here, what else is new
>>2856
It was kinda cute because it encouraged me post friendler. There was never a need for me to be rude or passive aggressive.
>>2856
I know, it's almost like they're trying to moderate content or something. Why on earth would they be doing that?
>>2339
maybe im crazy but what if repeated posts didn't bump threads?
>OP posts (top of frontpage)
>anon 1 posts (bump)
>anon 2 posts (bump)
>anon 2 posts (no bump)
>anon 1 posts (bump)
>anon 2 posts (bump)
>>2901
hmm... that doesn't seem like a bad idea.
>>2901
Very interesting concept
>>2333
CREATE TELEGRAM/DISCORD/IRC SERVER
>>2333
Can we have a Dashchan extension?
>>2906
I asked the dev a while back, it's still a ticket on github. Maybe if more people ask he will budge.
>>2904
Been there done that. It's better to use the board for discussion.
>>2904
no. last time it killed mewch.
>>2906
not a fan of this either. you can post with dashchan via endchan. change the url to mewch and viola.
btw sorry for the reboot a few minutes ago.
rip all that uptime
IDEA:
/rpg/ becomes a board
·small community nice for rpg shit
·fun
·dice
·uses features already implemented in mewch (id posts)
·hopefully not shit
⎡ˋ︺ˊ⎦
>>2913
Honestly this is a good idea. Just need to see if people are interested and then I'll make it. If you have friends that are willing to use the board I can probably make a trial board.
>>2914
i was planning a lighthearted cyao on b
would host simple stuff updated every once in awhile for the sake of storytelling/rp
>>2919
You should test it on /b/
Then you can see your audience for it. I would make a thread but I don't know much about running something like that. I could probably make you a board owner if this hits off.
Remove crypto-pedo board.
Hey, you said on the stream I had been made the new BO of /fringe/, but it still says "volunteer."
If I'm supposed to be able to add new flags, please tell me how.
new /fringe/ board owner, please preserve the integrity of /fringe/ and the work of the artist formerly known as Fringe Wizard
>>3129
I'll keep the board free of spam and off topic postings but I'm no tech nerd so that will be all.
>>3130
I am no judge, I apologize. it is not my intention to trouble you in any way whoever you are.
>>3131
I'm just a poster on /x/ and /fringe/.
>>2935
Hey n3wb, sorry I didn't know you were unable to do that. I can make you the board owner, you should have the ability to now.
>>3133
Ok thx.
It works now.
Update after a long time. Board index and threads are now done. There is still no JS yet, but I'm implementing features previously only possible with JS using CSS. I'm attempting to replicate as much functionality as possible with CSS and then progressively enhance the site using JS to compensate the missing functionality.
Also in my plans is to fix the gay tripcode that Lynx thinks is somehow acceptable, and turn it into the old imageboard format that literally every sane engine under the sun uses.
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> turn it into the old imageboard format that literally every sane engine under the sun uses.
>>3170
>>3171
People want to use their old tripcodes that they used on other boards. And your tripcode is also not sane, it is glued into the name field so you can't mark it up in a separate fashion without backend modification (see: 8chan makes the post name bold and makes the tripcode non-bold to differentiate). How did you come up with the current method in the first place?
>>3172
I just did the bare minimum to fulfill tripcode's purpose.
>>3173
If you added tripcodes, why not go through the hassle and make it work like it does? Now you get 6 million tripfags kvetching about how their trips don't work.
>>3174
make it work like it does everywhere else*
>>3173
Also, you should make the namefag saving on a per-board basis. If I post with name on here I have to delete it on another board, and then put it again when I want to post here.
>>3174
> Now you get 6 million tripfags kvetching about how their trips don't work.
And I don't care about a single one of them.
>>3177
>doesn't care about frontend devs
>doesn't care about users
LIKE POTTERY
Added a little change to the action menu animations. Now moving on to implement the file section on the posts.
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>>3179
forgot pic

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